Cam4 is DEAD!

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user_3234 December 10, 2017 4:11 AM
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What the hell has happened to Cam4? is it just bad management? 

This evening over on Chaturbate the top male cam had 5569 viewers.

By comparison at the same time the top male cam on Cam4 only had 489 viewers.

Just seems odd Cam4 has declined so fast.   
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user_12491 December 10, 2017 7:37 AM
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I think I've said it before but Cam4 spent a long time showing too much favouritism towards certain performers and its cost them dearly. The whole camily thing just made people feel excluded so they either quit Cam4 altogether or set up home on Chaturbate/Live Jasmine etc. 

So yes poor management for sure is to blame. Its a shame because 4 years ago it was the best cam site. Now its not even in the top 5. 
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user_3234 December 11, 2017 6:44 AM
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I'm just so surprised to see how little viewers Cam4 now has. Chaturbate really has overtaken it. 
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CM797 April 23, 2018 1:09 PM
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They protected a psychopath that kept sending in fake screenshots.

A good portion of the membership and performers were culled or banned liberally. The psychopath was within the admins trusted circle. He may have actually been one of the admins or one with enough leverage there to get what he wanted.  It's a bit complex.  Sure, poor management. It was exceedingly poor because they would not listen to anyone that was framed with a screen shot photo-shopped and sent on to admin to see proof of breaking the terms of use (even by words alone)  I would email them frequently and tell admin what was going on under their nose.  I finally got an email back. It said, "what proof do you have?".  I sent them skype conversations, what other people knew and how things pointed at the psychopath. I sent them real screen shots of his behavior in the chats and also proof from what other people had saved that he had hundreds of different profiles all that were horrible trolls tying to sabotage all the shows.. He had one technique which he told me soon after I met him. He was able to knock a show off line.  He could do this at anytime. One way he did it.. well I will not say here. If anyone recalls cam4 in the past so many times a great show that had lots of tippers and everyone enjoying themselves at the cumshot time... just seconds before the guy came.. boom the cam feed went black.  Over and over again this happened. I told cam4 that this guy was doing this too!  My emails either went into spam or into a trash can, never read.     I told them I had a lot and peoples testimony too, but they themselves had the bulk of the evidence that proves what this guy is up to.  After he framed me with a falsified screenshot, he could never get what he wanted so his damage escalated to many more people. Boarder line personality disorder. Look it up. He can be very convincing that he was "normal" but under that facade lurked an evil, cunning, hating, blaming individual that always lashed out at others and could not see that it was himself that was the cause of all his failures.  Even after cam4 got rid of him, years later he blames me and another person for getting him banned.  If that was the case I would have done that much sooner.  It was other people that admin paid attention to and hopefully could refer to what I told them too.  Somebody knew because without saying anything like an apology I suddenly had a free Gold account for two years.  If you've ever been banned from a site particularly if it was done by someone you knew, and you have no ability to control or say the truth, for one it made me angry as hell, then it made sad that people have such shallow lives that this is how they get their jollies.  If you see a direct response to this post, pay close attention to what the person writes.. Normal people will see it immediately and will get a glimpse at what took cam4 down.
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user_12491 April 24, 2018 6:10 AM
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What you has posted there backs up my theory on how management favouritism ended up ruining the site. They gave too much focus to certain models and as a result others felt unwanted. Plus the silly immature mod wars did the site no favours. 

Chaturbate is so much better now, so much more talent on there as well.
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user_14895 April 26, 2018 1:56 PM
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Originally Posted by CM797
A good portion of the membership and performers were culled or banned liberally. The psychopath was within the admins trusted circle. He may have actually been one of the admins or one with enough leverage there to get what he wanted.  It's a bit complex.  Sure, poor management. It was exceedingly poor because they would not listen to anyone that was framed with a screen shot photo-shopped and sent on to admin to see proof of breaking the terms of use (even by words alone)  I would email them frequently and tell admin what was going on under their nose.  I finally got an email back. It said, "what proof do you have?".  I sent them skype conversations, what other people knew and how things pointed at the psychopath. I sent them real screen shots of his behavior in the chats and also proof from what other people had saved that he had hundreds of different profiles all that were horrible trolls tying to sabotage all the shows.. He had one technique which he told me soon after I met him. He was able to knock a show off line.  He could do this at anytime. One way he did it.. well I will not say here. If anyone recalls cam4 in the past so many times a great show that had lots of tippers and everyone enjoying themselves at the cumshot time... just seconds before the guy came.. boom the cam feed went black.  Over and over again this happened. I told cam4 that this guy was doing this too!  My emails either went into spam or into a trash can, never read.     I told them I had a lot and peoples testimony too, but they themselves had the bulk of the evidence that proves what this guy is up to.  After he framed me with a falsified screenshot, he could never get what he wanted so his damage escalated to many more people. Boarder line personality disorder. Look it up. He can be very convincing that he was "normal" but under that facade lurked an evil, cunning, hating, blaming individual that always lashed out at others and could not see that it was himself that was the cause of all his failures.  Even after cam4 got rid of him, years later he blames me and another person for getting him banned.  If that was the case I would have done that much sooner.  It was other people that admin paid attention to and hopefully could refer to what I told them too.  Somebody knew because without saying anything like an apology I suddenly had a free Gold account for two years.  If you've ever been banned from a site particularly if it was done by someone you knew, and you have no ability to control or say the truth, for one it made me angry as hell, then it made sad that people have such shallow lives that this is how they get their jollies.  If you see a direct response to this post, pay close attention to what the person writes.. Normal people will see it immediately and will get a glimpse at what took cam4 down.



NO ROB! you were banned for being a troll. You repeatedly tried to control models, you recorded shows and you were ultimately banned for advising them to take off site payments then you launched a four year hate campaign against the site and against me and my friends.  
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user_14898 April 28, 2018 4:21 AM
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Originally Posted by user_14895
Originally Posted by CM797
A good portion of the membership and performers were culled or banned liberally. The psychopath was within the admins trusted circle. He may have actually been one of the admins or one with enough leverage there to get what he wanted.  It's a bit complex.  Sure, poor management. It was exceedingly poor because they would not listen to anyone that was framed with a screen shot photo-shopped and sent on to admin to see proof of breaking the terms of use (even by words alone)  I would email them frequently and tell admin what was going on under their nose.  I finally got an email back. It said, "what proof do you have?".  I sent them skype conversations, what other people knew and how things pointed at the psychopath. I sent them real screen shots of his behavior in the chats and also proof from what other people had saved that he had hundreds of different profiles all that were horrible trolls tying to sabotage all the shows.. He had one technique which he told me soon after I met him. He was able to knock a show off line.  He could do this at anytime. One way he did it.. well I will not say here. If anyone recalls cam4 in the past so many times a great show that had lots of tippers and everyone enjoying themselves at the cumshot time... just seconds before the guy came.. boom the cam feed went black.  Over and over again this happened. I told cam4 that this guy was doing this too!  My emails either went into spam or into a trash can, never read.     I told them I had a lot and peoples testimony too, but they themselves had the bulk of the evidence that proves what this guy is up to.  After he framed me with a falsified screenshot, he could never get what he wanted so his damage escalated to many more people. Boarder line personality disorder. Look it up. He can be very convincing that he was "normal" but under that facade lurked an evil, cunning, hating, blaming individual that always lashed out at others and could not see that it was himself that was the cause of all his failures.  Even after cam4 got rid of him, years later he blames me and another person for getting him banned.  If that was the case I would have done that much sooner.  It was other people that admin paid attention to and hopefully could refer to what I told them too.  Somebody knew because without saying anything like an apology I suddenly had a free Gold account for two years.  If you've ever been banned from a site particularly if it was done by someone you knew, and you have no ability to control or say the truth, for one it made me angry as hell, then it made sad that people have such shallow lives that this is how they get their jollies.  If you see a direct response to this post, pay close attention to what the person writes.. Normal people will see it immediately and will get a glimpse at what took cam4 down.



NO ROB! you were banned for being a troll. You repeatedly tried to control models, you recorded shows and you were ultimately banned for advising them to take off site payments then you launched a four year hate campaign against the site and against me and my friends.  


Oh was he also known as Will?? all this makes sense. He is the guy who tries to direct performers with his ''years'' of mod experience when the truth is that he records their show then sells it on hosting sites.
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geilxberg May 13, 2018 5:49 AM
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Originally Posted by user_14898
Originally Posted by user_14895
Originally Posted by CM797
A good portion of the membership and performers were culled or banned liberally. The psychopath was within the admins trusted circle. He may have actually been one of the admins or one with enough leverage there to get what he wanted.  It's a bit complex.  Sure, poor management. It was exceedingly poor because they would not listen to anyone that was framed with a screen shot photo-shopped and sent on to admin to see proof of breaking the terms of use (even by words alone)  I would email them frequently and tell admin what was going on under their nose.  I finally got an email back. It said, "what proof do you have?".  I sent them skype conversations, what other people knew and how things pointed at the psychopath. I sent them real screen shots of his behavior in the chats and also proof from what other people had saved that he had hundreds of different profiles all that were horrible trolls tying to sabotage all the shows.. He had one technique which he told me soon after I met him. He was able to knock a show off line.  He could do this at anytime. One way he did it.. well I will not say here. If anyone recalls cam4 in the past so many times a great show that had lots of tippers and everyone enjoying themselves at the cumshot time... just seconds before the guy came.. boom the cam feed went black.  Over and over again this happened. I told cam4 that this guy was doing this too!  My emails either went into spam or into a trash can, never read.     I told them I had a lot and peoples testimony too, but they themselves had the bulk of the evidence that proves what this guy is up to.  After he framed me with a falsified screenshot, he could never get what he wanted so his damage escalated to many more people. Boarder line personality disorder. Look it up. He can be very convincing that he was "normal" but under that facade lurked an evil, cunning, hating, blaming individual that always lashed out at others and could not see that it was himself that was the cause of all his failures.  Even after cam4 got rid of him, years later he blames me and another person for getting him banned.  If that was the case I would have done that much sooner.  It was other people that admin paid attention to and hopefully could refer to what I told them too.  Somebody knew because without saying anything like an apology I suddenly had a free Gold account for two years.  If you've ever been banned from a site particularly if it was done by someone you knew, and you have no ability to control or say the truth, for one it made me angry as hell, then it made sad that people have such shallow lives that this is how they get their jollies.  If you see a direct response to this post, pay close attention to what the person writes.. Normal people will see it immediately and will get a glimpse at what took cam4 down.



NO ROB! you were banned for being a troll. You repeatedly tried to control models, you recorded shows and you were ultimately banned for advising them to take off site payments then you launched a four year hate campaign against the site and against me and my friends.  


Oh was he also known as Will?? all this makes sense. He is the guy who tries to direct performers with his ''years'' of mod experience when the truth is that he records their show then sells it on hosting sites.


Currently known as Robehou on Cam4. KennethWade was using him as mod recently until he started getting all obessive so Kenneth had to ban and block him from the room. 
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